Gone are the days when every parish church had a choir of boys and men to lead the worship. Many still do, but many do not. The parish church choir of today will, almost certainly, include girls and women; many cathedral choirs include girls, but many remain a final stronghold of the all-male choir. There is a feeling that choirs can, sadly, begin to exist for their own musical reasons and have a life separate from the real worship of the church; this clearly is unhealthy. Much will depend on the choirmaster and his own Christian conviction, and on the relationship between choirmaster and incumbent.